> Yes, but that won't save you from getting -0.3V at the PIC pin.. > may this cause problems? For MCLR it is definitely out of specs. > It isn't for I/O pins, but then again how do we know that component > tolerances don't make the PIC conduct instead of the Schottky diode > (both are rated -0.3V, but the former may be -0.3 and the latter > -0.31 because of tolerances.. who knows?). While using a Schottky may indeed violate the data sheet specs you can be reasonably confident that it is OK based on the physics involved. (Violating datasheet specs in any way places you outside guaranteed operation, but doing so intelligently may work if you actually make the correct assumptions about the reasons for the specs. Make the wrong assumptions and anything can happen :-) ). The on chip protection diodes are silicon. While at typical currents these have about a 0.6v voltage drop, they will still conduct much lower currents at much lower voltages. The law is an exponential one. The 0.3v spec is (IMO) an attempt to set a level so far away from the full conduction threshold that the current passed will be truly insignificant. They could have set the spec at 0 volts but decided that some minuscule current was in fact OK. The Schottky diode will draw orders of magnitude more current at this voltage and can be ALMOST guaranteed to prevent the silicon diode getting anywhere near significant conduction. YMMV BUT I have never heard of anyone having a problem when using Schottky diodes in this manner. RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu