Hi Edward, I wanted to use Olimex myself, but after reading that I need to select drills, convert files and people said sometimes you need to contact them, which takes sometime, I opted for www.custompcb.com - no hassles - send them Eagle brd file and payment after request. There is a drawback however - they do not do silk layer. But quality of the PCB was very precise. You may see it here: http://www.radier.ca/images/board_top.jpg http://www.radier.ca/images/board_bottom.jpg They are in square format, but camera changed outlook. Next time I will try Olimex with silk. Dmitriy. -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Edward Cooper Sent: February 24, 2004 1:09 PM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: [EE:] My first PCB production Hi I'm about to order a couple of PCBs from Olimex, this is the first time ever I've done this, and just wondered what the common mistakes maybe? Does anyone have a link to a website with helpful hints? I've looked at the Olimex site which seems quite helpful just looking for any other suggestions is Olimex a good idea for a beginner like me? I've used Eagle and am not entirely sure what format is best to send them too, they mention taking eagle files directly, those who use Olimex, what format do you use? The double sided boards, will they look like professionally mad boards, ie with an insulating mask over the traces, and a silk screen of all the stuff i've written in Ealge on the front? Sorry if anyone feels these questions are answered in help or online files, I just want to hear some personal feedback from anyone who have used Olimex or similar to make their first PCB recently! I just don't want to throw away money or look like an idiot.... Thanks for any help. Ed -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body