James, > for all intents and purposes random - the frequency/phase difference > between > your relevant internal signals and the AC frequency. That is to say that > even a very brief shock with just the wrong timing could be the end of a > person, even after he/she has sustained a much larger and otherwise > identical shock due to subtle differences in the way that the 50 or 60Hz > interacts with your body's signals. > > I am the first to admit that I have no hard evidence to back up this > theory, > but for my purposes I don't need any. You are exactly correct - defribilators ("Clear!") basically work on this principal. It is not simply a case of passing a large current through somones chest, it has to be at exacly the right time in order to stop/start the heart. Defrib units monitor the persons arrythmic heartbeat and apply the shock at the right time. A shock from such a unit generally lasts between 7 ms and 12 ms corresponding to a frequency range of 70Hz to 40Hz - congratulations to whoever thought 50/60Hz was a nice frequency for mains electrity. The response of your nerves varies greatly with frequency - below about 10Hz or above 500Hz sensation of shock is vastly reduced. There is no such thing as being accustomed to electric shocks, having surived a shock before makes no difference, some people may however have undiagonsed heart conditions which would make them more likley to die from a given shock. As regards the 9v batteries - are you sure people didn't die by testing them with their tongue whilst operating heavy machinery / tightrope walking / driving etc. i am quite sure that the tiny locallised dc current is not enough to be dangerous even to people with heart conditions. Regards Alex Rice -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads