I'm working on a design for a PIC18F452 based board that can be programmed in the field, by folk who do not have the standard Microchip tools, such as a Picstart+ or an ICD-2. I don't wish to use a bootloader, since this would require the user to have access to a pre-loaded PIC, so I'm looking around for a simple circuit to build into my PCB to enable a blank PIC to be loaded with a .HEX file or similar. Does anyone have any URL's for good schematics of this type? - thanks. Peter Moreton -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu