Herbert, I hit reply to a post... I didn't change or create create the subject... didn't even notice what it was...... just responded in kind to the text of the post.... so what is this only and final warning ? by what authority ? I can change it to off topic.... perhaps the content started PIC related and took a turn to off topic..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Graf" To: Cc: "PICLIST-request" Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 9:54 PM Subject: RE: [PIC]: Olin has been Deleted! (was insuccesses) > DO NOT POST THIS UNDER THE PICLIST TAG. > > This is your only and final warning. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of MSullivan > > Sent: February 19, 2004 18:09 > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: Re: [PIC]: Olin has been Deleted! (was insuccesses) > > > > > > I hate to see Olin get slaughtered like this... he was helpful and > > responsive to me too.... > > I don't get the hangup on the word "idiot"..... you ever watch > > "That 70's > > show"?... the father says it to his son... > > ever watch "Everybody Love Raymond" Debra calls raymond that... > > it just seems a gut level expression these days..... and we > > laugh at it on > > TV..... > > I knew a technition that had quite a crude vocabulary... he > > could laugh at > > himself too... > > my best friend threw the word idiot around.... and just mostly funny.... > > like watching a cartoon is..... > > Olin is probably parroting and expression he heard many times... probably > > with he best friends... > > it doesn't come natural to Olin to talk mushy "you're going down the wrong > > path.... blah blah.... " ... but idiot pops to mind... maybe he's busy > > and wants to be breef... and addresses more issues that way... > > rather than > > trying to soft pad his opinions and observation..... > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeff LeBlanc" > > To: > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 9:50 AM > > Subject: Re: [PIC]: Olin has been Deleted! (was insuccesses) > > > > > > > Perhaps, what is needed IS the abuse of those too lazy to do even the > > > smallest amount of self help before asking the list to do all of their > > grunt > > > work for them. > > > > > > If every time some idiot spewed forth: "Please tell me > > everything you have > > > learned about pic's in the last 10 years so I then know what question to > > ask > > > you so I can get you to do my project for me", someone slammed him good > > for > > > being a lazy dumb**** then perhaps the quantity of those types of > > > questions/requests would decline. > > > > > > This is a problem which is not limited to the piclist but to > > most forums. > > > There should be a idiot filter where the person asking the question or > > > making a request should have to demonstrate at least some minimal trying > > to > > > solve the problem on his/her own. > > > > > > I have been reading the list for several years, and have > > benefited greatly > > > from Olin's posts. By removing him from the list does nothing > > to solve the > > > problem of the idiots, it only removes a valuable source of information > > from > > > those who truly appreciate the list. The one who SHOULD have > > been removed > > > was the idiot that ilicited Olin's response which in my opinion was mild > > and > > > could have and should have been much worse. > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] > On > > Behalf Of Andrew Kieran > > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 9:38 AM > > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > > Subject: Re: [PIC]: Olin has been Deleted! (was insuccesses) > > > > James, > > I hope that you re-visit your decision to remove Olin. It is > > your decision to make, but it does seem to run counter to the > > best interests of the list. He is part of what makes this list > > such a valuable resource. > > > > Olin is an extremely valuable contributor to the list, measured > > not just in the volume of his posts, but by the depth of his > > knowledge and by his oft-demonstrated willingness to help > > others. > > > > Moreover, the post which triggered his ire was pretty > > unreasonable. It asked list-members to do grunt work that the > > poster appeared to feel was beneath him. Please don't 'cut off > > your nose, to spite your face'. > > > > I hope that cooler heads will prevail. > > > > Andrew > > > > ________________________________________________ > > Get your own "800" number > > Voicemail, fax, email, and a lot more > > http://www.ureach.com/reg/tag > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > > [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body > > -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu