> A bootloader normally requires a hardware UART, and I'm > unaware of any 8-pin device that has one. Why? A UART can be bit-banged (done in software), or another way of commuication can be used (check my WLoader and ZPL bootloaders). [Reading further in the discussion I see this point has already been made for me.] But the real problem is that I don't know any 8-pin PICs that can write to their own code space. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body