A bootloader normally requires a hardware UART, and I'm unaware of any 8-pin device that has one. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Byron A Jeff" To: Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 10:42 AM Subject: Re: [pic]: Is there an 8 pin pic with bootloader? > On Wed, Feb 18, 2004 at 05:53:53PM +0100, Wouter van Ooijen wrote: > > > 1) Programming infrastructure support. > > > > ic-prog claims to support the 18F's, so just about every 'simple' > > programmer design should be a ble to do the 18F's (provided that it > > works in the first place) > > Solves the problem for Windows users, but cross platform support is critical. > It's one reason why I've finally investigated how to get picprg crossplatform > by using the mingw compiler to get a Windows version going. > > > > > > 2) Software infrastructure support. > > > > Jal definitely does 18F, but not as efficient as it could be. But > > definitely useable (I use it a lot) > > May seem to be a dumb question but... Exactly which JAL version do you use > now? Your own? Or the SourceForge version? > > > > > The C18 compiler from Microchip is expensive, but the time-limited demo > > is free (and can be re-installed :) > > > > > 3) Tutorial/Example infrastructure. > > > > Not much yet that I know of. If I find the time (not likely :( ) I will > > expand the range of Dwarf Notes. But not that the 18F's lack some > > problems that make the 12 and 14 bit cores hard to use, so they need > > less hand-holding tutorials :) > > > > > 4) Silicon issues. Not running at the full 40 Mhz, PLL > > > > No real issues that I know of for the 18Fxx2 series, which I consider > > the first choices. > > I'll test out my 18F452s when I get a chance. > > BAJ > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body