Wouter wrote: > If you used an ex-circuit programmer (ZIF socket type) it might have > applied power to the wrong poins, or (worse) to the power/ground pins > but reseversed. This is one of the (few) ways to kill a PIC. My personal experience is this:=20 Once I inadvertently placed a 16F628 upside down on the ZIF socket of a self-made EPIC programmer and hit the Program button. When I got the = error message, I spotted the mistake, removed the PIC and placed it the right = way around. Luckily, the programming went through without any hassles and = that PIC is normal till today. Despite reversing power and ground lines and applying Vpp to pin 13 (RB7), I failed to kill that PIC! I have heard = about similar experiences from others too. Perhaps, it's a question of how = long the high voltage should be applied on the wrong pin to permanently damage = the PIC! Regards, Bala -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body