> > What exactly is a long journey in the UK? > > Trying to use the motorway around Londen in the rush hour. Takes > forever. NB read Pratchet/Gaiman to find out why. Average speed of automobiles at start of 20th century = 11 mph Average speed of automobiles at end of 20th century = 6 mph according to something I heard recently RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.