> I have to admitt that I really can't see why the latch is required, Try it. You'll like it. > is it really that much of a hardship to hold the trigger in for the few minutes it > takes to fill a tank? Yes :-) I HATED doing it in the UK. There was such a mental groove in my brain from using the latches that I noticed their absence every time I filled up in the UK and was annoyed. I may also have been annoyed by the fact that petrol cost more than twice as much as it does in NZ. Presently here it's about the equivalent of 0.35 GBP per litre. What's it cost in the UK now? > Or am I missing something else that's different > outside that UK? No. Just that once you are provided with a new convenience, losing it becomes very noticeable. The more so if your brain tells you that it's a stupidity - even if it isn't :-) RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.