Too bad that one of my rare posts is [OT:] concerning this mess about Olin. I do lurk because I learn a great deal from it and quite often it saves me from having to ask for help. BUT, when I need the help, I ask. I have received a couple of interesting comments from Olin as well (another person may have been offended but not me). We, the human race that is, are where we are because of survival of the fittest. Sometimes it takes a hard knock to realize that you should have done something differently. That last statement is meant for both the recipients of Olin's comments as well as Olin. I for one, hope that everyone learns from this and becomes "fitter" for it! Regards, Stephen D. Barnes -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads