Your position is invalid. When Olin called me stupid 4 years ago, he did it offlist and sent me personal email. That was my first experience with this list. I had no way of knowing that asking a valid newby question would get me a response like that and therefore had no chance of screening it before it happened. Others on the otherhand did send very helpful replies and I stuck around. I sit on the fence on this one but then again...it's not my decision nor yours is it. FJ ================================================= Outlook can easily filter postings also, if you know that you are the sensitive type... _________________________________________________________________ Let the advanced features & services of MSN Internet Software maximize your online time. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200363ave/direct/01/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads