> We must have the right to express ourselves And sometimes expressing yourself has consequences > we live in a democracy, don't we ? No. Piclist is not a democracy. It's a collection of people with moderators. Who try to keep thing moderate. Have you ever tried a group that doesn't have a good moderator ? Not a pretty sight. Insults, spam, OT, flames, factions........ > Outlook can easily filter postings also, if you know that > you are the sensitive type... Exactly what could you use as a filter ? There are so many ways of being insulting that use legitimate words. There have been posters in the past I just didn't like and their mails would go in the bin unread. I didn't care to take the time to search their mails beforehand to find out if they had anything positive or even "normal" to say > If you go to the bookstore, you don't buy books you don't like ! Yes, that's very true. I use that argument with people who get precious about not having a TV > Don't read postings you know you'll don't like ! Unfortunately you have to read some of the post to find out what the tone is. And it's too late then. Personally I don't like having my day or mood disrupted by an over-the-top mail, particularly if it was either unnecessary or could have been done in a politer way > Why waste bandwith with this ? Well, for one thing it shows people how the list works. However, it does seem that much of the noise that Olin hated in other tags he actually generates under the [PIC:] tag. Rather ironic > My personal opinion is that ANY contribution to the list is useful Disagree with "ANY" I can see someone shot on the news and don't get half as disturbed as seeing someone get the same by email. There's something about seeing it there in black and white. I'm sure if you were ever on the receiving end of such a mail you would feel quite differently. I've seen Olin in a minority of one calling technical points "rediculous" (sic) and then having to backtrack. "Ridiculous" is an offensive way of disagreeing. Demeaning people is not the way to keep members and encourage them to ask questions. It's the simple human reaction of avoidance. That said, there are some who really could do a little homework, but they may need to be told to do that > if I don't like a posting, I delete it and forget it. That's all ! Simple > isn't it ? Judging by all the heat, apparently not -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads