>If that isn't enough add a couple more, or go strait for a standard >electric water heater element. Seems like the last one I bought was 4500 >watts at 220V for about $18. Smaller is available or you could run it on >110V to cut the wattage. Add a transistor and a relay and bob's your uncle. Something from a water heater, eh? I hadn't considered that. >On the cold side, a fridge would probably work, but there are other options >without getting too complicated. A couple bags of ice will get you pretty >close to freezing, add a little table salt to the ice to get it MUCH colder >(like -65 F). Or you could run a pipe through a freezer and your tank and >pump coolant through it (saltwater or automotive antifreeze) This is actually a pretty good idea; since it's important that the water in the tank be fairly homogeneous in temperature and in oxygenation, the standard method is to buy a pump that has a heater built into it, thus simultaneously mixing, oxygenating, and heating the water. The problem is, those are quite pricey. >Will any of that help? >-Denny I hadn't considered running a hose or tube through the freezer; that may be helpful. It still doesn't solve my problem of an easy method for varying the heater. Ideally I need a 500-1000w aquarium heater that uses a serially input 16 bit number to determine its power output. Of course, all you can find in fish stores are turn-the-knob heaters. I haven't stripped one of those yet; if the pot which adjusts the temp doesn't have to handle much current, maybe I can use a digital pot. Maybe. Mike H. _________________________________________________________________ Let the advanced features & services of MSN Internet Software maximize your online time. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200363ave/direct/01/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads