Well, since everybody else has chipped in on this I guess I will to. I actually like Olin, but certainly have not appreciated his, shall we say, brusque, attitude at times. While I am saddened by his departure, I must commend James for sticking to his guns and carrying through his 'threat'. I think this is unfortunately necessary for the discipline of the PICLIST as a whole. Bob Ammerman RAm Systems -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads