> I have changed the subject of this post because I think that many people > who may not have been following the original thread will want to weigh > in on this. > > I personally think that James' assertion that "No amount of excellent > advice is worth being called an idiot" is simply absurd. Olin is > obviously one of the most valuable and prolific contributors to this > list and certainly has earned a bit of extra grace in my book. > > In any case, the supposed cure is far out of balance with the offence. > I seriously doubt that the anonymous OP was psychologically damaged by > the suggestion that his request was idiotic... certainly not to the > extent of needing the list host's "protection." On the other hand, I > regard the loss of Olin's (mostly) very thoughtful and helpful input as > a very great loss indeed. And you might want to notice that unlike many > the ugly "flame wars" of the past, this was at least PIC related. > > I ask James to please reconsider this hasty and unwarranted action. > > Foster I have personally stayed out of this thread mainly since I don't want to add more noise to the list (and after this post I probably won't post again in this thread), but these comments deserve response. Let me make something very clear here. This was NOT an isolated incident. I have personally (as an Admin) warned Olin about his behaviour on the list many times. If you consider just this event then I can understand why some might believe James is over reacting. But when you consider more of the history things become a little less clear. I frankly would not have put up with Olin as much as I have hadn't it been for his positive influence on the list. That said, the childish behaviour sometimes seen is simply not acceptable, in my mind. But I'm not the owner of the list, just a lowly Admin, so my opinion isn't the only say. FWIW we have come very close a few times in the past to doing what James has done. Personally as an admin I have found Olin more work then he was worth. I will miss some of his contributions, and I won't miss alot of his abusive responses. That's about all I have to say about that... -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads