It is not a democracy this is true, but I see more value in keeping the Olin's of the world and little value in stupid questions. Yes they are newbies, but just as people say that people such as Olin have a responsibility to be more patient with beginners, the beginners need to be more responsible in forming questions that will 1) show that they are at least trying to solve their own problem and 2) show that they are not trying to get the list to do their whole project. If Mr. smarty pants that posted the hex code would have asked what format would be best for getting help first he might have received a better response from Olin. -----Original Message----- From: pic microcontroller discussion list [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU] On Behalf Of D. Jay Newman Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 10:16 AM To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: [PIC]: Olin has been Deleted! (was insuccesses) > Well, at this point it would be interesting to call a vote... > something like: As James pointed out, this list is *not* a democracy. I may disagree with his decision on this exact point, but had the circumstances been slightly different I would have agreed (it was the hex-code thing that pushed me onto Olin's side). The list moderator has a responsibility. Unless you've moderated a list, you don't know how much work it is. Frankly, this is my last comment on the subject. The list-moderator made a decision, and unless you want to start a new list of your own, then we must abide by James' choice. -- D. Jay Newman ! jay@sprucegrove.com ! Xander: Giles, don't make cave-slayer unhappy. http://enerd.ws/robots/ ! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads