Hear Hear, James!   I have struggled for 9 years on this list to pay
attention to new members, be patient in answering simple questions, and to
be patient with questioners that do not supply enough information. Perhaps
I have countered a little bit of Olin's .. ah ... abruptness

James' patience with poor Olin's excesses is longer than mine would have
been.  For those who have just tuned in, this has been a long struggle,
since Olin has also contributed a lot of valuable expertise to this list.
However, he has ignored warnings too many times for James' ability to
tolerate his rudeness.

The PIClist has been and continues to be an extremely valuable resource
for me.  I finally reached the point where I regularly answer more
questions than I ask, but it took years and a few cuffs on the head from
Olin.  Each of these incidents  makes more and more work for James, who is
already overloaded and has burnt off three lifetimes worth of Karma
dealing with the noise generated by these incidents.

Despite the example of Dilbert, Engineers must realize that their social
skills are as important as their technical skills, and no list like this
can survive if newcomers are regularly insulted.  Many people may think
this list is about ASM code and C code and executing a task in under 9
machine cycles, but it is also about working together smoothly in groups
of engineers.  Whether you are a lone consultant working for clients or a
Dilbert working for a Pionty Haired Boss, you still have to figure out how
to work smoothly with people.

No problem with me that the  PIClist is not a democracy, but  it is
governed by a wise and restrained hand.

-- Lawrence Lile

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