On Sun, Feb 15, 2004 at 07:43:11PM -0800, James Newton, Host wrote:
> Olin has been deleted from the PICList.
>
> No amount of excellent advice is worth being called an idiot.

James,

I think you're making a mistake here. First and foremost, Olin called no
one an idiot. He stated that the action will get you dismissed as an idiot.

Secondly, while Olin probably could use a charm school lesson or two, he is
more than right on point. In fact the only thing I was thinking when I read
the post the first time is "Why is Olin even wasting time on this drivel?"
But I realized that he was trying to teach the OP the mistakes of his ways.


Please reconsider this action, as I fervently believe that it is a mistake.

BAJ

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> James.
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Olin Lathrop" <olin_piclist@EMBEDINC.COM>
> To: <PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
> Sent: Sunday, February 15, 2004 10:10 AM
> Subject: Re: [PIC]: PIC18F8720 insuccesses
>
>
> > No Religion wrote:
> > > This is my code, as shown by IC-Prog:
> > > 0000: D00F 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
> > > 0008: 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
> > > 0010: 0000 0E00 6E92 6E93 6E94 6E95 6E96 6E97
> > > 0018: 6E98 6E99 6E9A 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
> > > 0020: 0EFF 6E80 6E81 6E82 6E83 6E84 6E85 6E86
> > > 0028: 6E87 6E88 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
> > > 0030: D7DE 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
> >
> > You can't be serious!  You actually expect someone else to disassemble
> this?
> > Think again.
> >
> > > And this is the configuration:
> > > Config1  = 2500
> > > Config2  = 000F
> > > Config3  = 0080
> > > Config4  = 0081
> > > Config5  = C0FF
> > > Config6  = E0FF
> > > Config7  = 40FF
> > > ID Value = 0123456789ABCDEF
> > >
> > > Is there anything wrong in my machine code
> >
> > I doubt to many people are going to waste time trying to find out.  Get
> > real.
> >
> > > (for this quick test
> > > I don't want to nor I think I need to install MP-Lab.
> >
> > This is rediculous.  You are asking for help with code you haven't even
> > bothered to run past the MPLAB simulator.  Come back when you've done your
> > homework.  Until then I've got better things to do.
> >
> > > I tried it and hated it,
> >
> > What didn't you like?
> >
> > > I will write my own source level debugger and
> > > assembler and release it to the PD after I'm finished).
> >
> > I'm not holding my breath.
> >
> > > It's supposed to be a BRA to 0010, where it will meet a NOP
> > > (no reason in particular)
> >
> > The preferred method is to wave a dead fish of the manual during a full
> moon
> > and pick whatever instruction it drips on first.
> >
> > > Finally (through some NOPs,
> > > again, just to leave some space for inserting other code for
> > > experiments)
> >
> > This is going from the rediculous to the idiotic.  With proper assembler
> > source you could insert any number of instructions later.
> >
> > > Addresses don't represent bytes, but instruction words.
> >
> > Actually it's the other way around on the 18 family.
> >
> > > I know it's tedious to go through machine code.
> >
> > Duh!
> >
> > > but if you're kind enough,
> >
> > You're being an idiot, and I don't have time to waste on idiots.
> >
> > > Or, in alternative, could some kind soul post a small .HEX file
> > > with a demo program that just turns some port pins ON and some
> > > others OFF, just to see if my problem lies in my hardware or in
> > > my code?
> >
> > There are many samples out there, including a bunch on my own web site.
> > However, they are all written in assembler so I won't bother you with
> them.
> >
> > > I hope to get your valuable help.
> >
> > I bet, but you won't get it until you respect my time.
> >
> > > I really don't know what to experiment else.
> >
> > Write your code in assembler, then test it with the MPLAB simulator.  Once
> > you've taken reasonable steps to understand and diagnose the problem, THEN
> > you can come back and ask again.  Posting unsimulated raw machine code
> will
> > just get you dismissed as an idiot.
> >
> >
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