One thing to also look at is how each company provides upgrades and the cost. I know of 3 Basic compilers. MELabs PicBasic Pro Basic Micro's MBasic and Proton +. I've used PBP quite a bit and really love it for the speed it takes to develop a simple project. However once your projects get to be more complex, then I think a C-compiler is the way to go. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads