Bob Axtell wrote: > Microchip should warn you 3rd Party Folks weeks in advance that > a new spec is coming, and provide you with a > "test chip" to test it on. Oh, yes, in Microchip's defense, they do give Third Party developers heads up information and samples. There's no complaint from me in that department. I guess my point is that I don't see any viable business model in a third party programmer. By the way, how did your portable programmer come out. I think you were using MMC for storage? It's interesting that Microchip's PM3 programmer uses MMC or SD for storage -- it's a nice-looking unit. I like your web site Bob -- thanks for sharing! Regards, Ken Pergola -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu