Hi Al, I'm having a terrible time reading your schematic -- the pixels are 'munchinized'. :) Any chance you could post something that is easier to read? Also, could you list more details about your ICD 2 setup: Are you using the USB port or serial port? Is the ICD 2 powered with the Microchip-recommended wall wart? What settings do you have enabled for the ICD 2 under the MPLAB IDE? Some more details would be helpful. Thanks, Ken Pergola -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body