Reposted under new topic -- Lawrence Lile ----- Forwarded by LAWRENCE LILE/COL/ENGNR/TMASTER/SALTON on 02/09/2004 05:27 PM ----- LAWRENCE LILE 02/09/2004 12:27 PM To: pic microcontroller discussion list cc: Lee McLaren Subject: Re: [PIC:] Which is the best PICBASIC compiler and development environment? USB? I was just getting ready to ask if anyone is considering a USB project. I am trying to ramp up on USB stuff in order to start a project in March. I predict a steep and rocky learning curve, after a week of furious reading. Programming the '745 should be a snap, relatively. However I am no windows programmer. I am considering using Visual Basic ont he Windows side, because of familiarity, relative simplicity and because Jan Axelson's USB Complete 1st ed. shows examples in Visual Basic. The descriptions of reports, descriptor tables, classes, endpoints and so on has my head spinning. Need to get Axelson's 2nd edition. What are you doing on the PC side of the USB plug? What tools, references, or preparation do you consider necessary for completing a USB project? For instance, a USB protocol analyzer? (Which could set you back more than a good scope) is this necessary? Apparently Axelson wrote her first USB edition without this tool. Sorta like programming a PIC wihtout ICD or ICE, which I have done plenty of times. Is this a commercial project? If so is your company joining the USB-IF? Who do you plan to use for USB 2.0 compliance testying? Outside labs, or a plugfest? -- Lawrence Lile Senior Project Engineer Toastmaster, Inc. Division of Salton, Inc. 573-446-5661 voice 573-446-5676 fax Lee McLaren Sent by: pic microcontroller discussion list 02/09/2004 03:07 AM Please respond to pic microcontroller discussion list To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU cc: Subject: [PIC:] Which is the best PICBASIC compiler and development environment? Hi All, I normally program in asm but are looking for a rapid development language. It is important that I can write USB code for the 16c745, I know I will still have to edit the HID description etc manually but are looking for some way to speed things up a little. I have found at least two PICBASIC compilers on the net, Proton and MEL. Are there others? Is there a clear winner in feature or performance (such as code size etc)? I would prefer to pay for a commercial product to get ongoing development. Cost is not important (within reason!). I am trying to avoid C if I can, I already know how to write Basic or Pascal. regards Lee McLaren -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body