Hi All, I normally program in asm but are looking for a rapid development language. It is important that I can write USB code for the 16c745, I know I will still have to edit the HID description etc manually but are looking for some way to speed things up a little. I have found at least two PICBASIC compilers on the net, Proton and MEL. Are there others? Is there a clear winner in feature or performance (such as code size etc)? I would prefer to pay for a commercial product to get ongoing development. Cost is not important (within reason!). I am trying to avoid C if I can, I already know how to write Basic or Pascal. regards Lee McLaren -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body