Or maybe what I did (more than once!): I had both a PIC in the ZIP socket *and* one connected to the ICSP leads. But I think that would not take a few days to correct. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body