Hi Olin, > As a quick test I connected the RJ-12 to a few boards that had > PICs on them and that worked with an ICD-2. Hi Olin, As you probably know, the ICD 2 has 4.7 K ohm pull-down resistors on PGC and PGC. Is it related to this? You mentioned that the breadboard target test worked with the ICD 2 correct? Regards, Ken Pergola -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.