1. Make shore the 13v supply is not too high for your PIC ie 13.5v maximum for a PIC 12F675 2. Check your bread board is not giving problems is low impedance between pins or short circuits, try a different bread board. :-) Roy --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.580 / Virus Database: 367 - Release Date: 6/02/2004 -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.