---- START NEW MESSAGE --- Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109] by dpmail10.doteasy.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id AE65930284; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:53:09 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <7.00CC5A2D@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:52:57 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 8693 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:52:49 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 4968; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:51:58 -0500 Received: from extsmtp1.localnet.com [207.251.201.54] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with SMTP ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:51:57 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by extsmtp1.localnet.com Received: (qmail 21557 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2004 23:17:24 -0000 Received: from thwerll.localnet.sys (HELO smtp1.localnet.com) (10.0.7.18) by extsmtp1.localnet.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2004 23:17:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 11343 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2004 23:51:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO kmp) (66.153.68.170) by smtp3.localnet.com with SMTP; 30 Jan 2004 23:51:30 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 18:51:33 -0500 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: Ken Pergola Subject: Re: [OT:] State Diagram for PICs To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: <003801c3e784$87b76bb0$0100a8c0@Roy> Precedence: list X-RCPT-TO: Status: U X-UIDL: 371856606 Roy Hopkins wrote: > What do you show in a state diagram when creating a program for a PIC? Hi Roy, Here's a PIC example for you: www.microchip.com/download/appnote/keeloq/00645b.pdf Take a look at page 3 of this AN645 application note. I recently saw a state diagram depicting the rules of American football (1st down, 2nd down, etc) and thought this would be a great state diagram example for introducing the concept, but I can't find it right now -- it was in an advertisement in Software Development Magazine -- I'll keep looking. Best regards, Ken Pergola -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body . 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Return-Path: Received: from 209.119.0.109 (EHLO cherry.ease.lsoft.com) (209.119.0.109) by mta123.mail.dcn.yahoo.com with SMTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:42:38 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <22.00CBF9FD@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:55:53 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 2671 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:55:46 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 4794; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:55:03 -0500 Received: from penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [193.180.251.47] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with ESMTP ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:55:03 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se Received: from esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se ([153.88.254.118]) by penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.12.10/8.12.10/WIREfire-1.8b) with ESMTP id i0RKseYK000704 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:55:02 +0100 (MET) Received: by esealnt612.al.sw.ericsson.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) id ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:54:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2657.72) Content-Type: text/plain Message-ID: <37FB7AA6F5F9814FB634A7BF4C35A6F5640CDC@ESEALNT442.al.sw.ericsson.se> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:49:29 +0100 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: "Jan-Erik Soderholm XA (TN/PAC)" Subject: Re: [PIC:] Picstart plus as an in circuit programmer? (16F627A) To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Precedence: list Dwayne Reid wrote : > I'll give a specific example: one of our products uses either > a 12c508 or a 12f675, depending upon which variant is being > produced. These are built several hundred at a time with > blank chips. We use a PS+ to program the chips in circuit... Does the PS+ perform verify over the full Vcc range ? (As a "production programmer" does ?) And, if not, is that a (potential) problem ? Or is it just a "it depends" issue ? :-) Regards Jan-Erik. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads *** MESSAGE TRUNCATED *** .. .