---- START NEW MESSAGE --- Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109] by dpmail10.doteasy.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A402244018C; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:02:42 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <4.00CC4C94@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 9:02:28 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 8793 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:02:22 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 9090; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:01:28 -0500 Received: from smtp-out3.xs4all.nl [194.109.24.13] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with ESMTP ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:01:27 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by smtp-out3.xs4all.nl Received: from PAARD (a213-84-20-53.adsl.xs4all.nl [213.84.20.53]) by smtp-out3.xs4all.nl (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0UE1T5H044877 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:01:30 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Message-ID: <000301c3e739$90e143a0$0b00a8c0@PAARD> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 15:01:23 +0100 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: Wouter van Ooijen Organization: Van Ooijen Technische Informatica Subject: Re: [PIC:] Programming Interface To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: <01b901c3e72c$7df9b540$3822a250@webspeed.dk> Precedence: list X-RCPT-TO: Status: U X-UIDL: 371856502 > Is it neccessary to have the +13 V? As far as I can see from > the PIC16F87XA manual only 5 V is needed for programming. That is true, but you sacrifice one pin for that feature. Read http://www.voti.nl/swp, there is an explanation of LVP versus HVP. NB The Wisp628 programmer generates the 13V internally, from the 5V you supply. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body . 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Return-Path: Received: from 209.119.0.109 (EHLO cherry.ease.lsoft.com) (209.119.0.109) by mta113.mail.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 14:55:24 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <0.00CBFC00@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 16:22:56 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 3638 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 16:22:49 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 6444; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 16:22:16 -0500 Received: from sccrmhc11.comcast.net [204.127.202.55] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with ESMTP ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 16:22:16 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by sccrmhc11.comcast.net Received: from dragon (pcp04856710pcs.olathe01.ks.comcast.net[68.86.129.42]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc11) with SMTP id <2004012721221801100jr5u4e>; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 21:22:18 +0000 X-Mailer: PocoMail 2.64 (1120) - Licensed Version Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <2004127152218.438413@dragon> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 15:22:18 -0600 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: Matt Pobursky Subject: Re: [EE:] PICLIST SPECIFIC VIRUS ALERT To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: <005201c3e512$a8f36000$7223fea9@jc2> Precedence: list On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:17:55 +1300, Jinx wrote: > > I thought that too, wouldn't trust anything made into a BBQ that > wasn't > supposed to be a BBQ. And they probably used building off-cuts with > H4 CCA preservative. Gives the meat that nice "tangy" flavour ;-) And toss in a few of your old retired auto tires, shredded, for that nice "smoky" taste... ;-) -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads *** MESSAGE TRUNCATED *** .. .