---- START NEW MESSAGE --- Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109] by dpmail10.doteasy.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A2041B1501F4; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:54:12 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <4.00CC4C68@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 8:54:00 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 8634 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:53:54 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 8829; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:52:49 -0500 Received: from sark.cc.gatech.edu [130.207.7.23] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with ESMTP ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:52:48 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by sark.cc.gatech.edu Received: from cleon.cc.gatech.edu (cleon.cc.gatech.edu [130.207.9.12]) by sark.cc.gatech.edu (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0UDqphZ017464 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:52:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from byron@localhost) by cleon.cc.gatech.edu (8.12.10/8.12.8) id i0UDqp1G018663 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:52:51 -0500 (EST) References: <000301c3e728$6c682ae0$b7f48fa5@roo> <01b901c3e72c$7df9b540$3822a250@webspeed.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Message-ID: <20040130135251.GA18549@cleon.cc.gatech.edu> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 08:52:51 -0500 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: Byron A Jeff Subject: Re: [PIC:] Programming Interface To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: <01b901c3e72c$7df9b540$3822a250@webspeed.dk> Precedence: list X-RCPT-TO: Status: U X-UIDL: 371856499 On Fri, Jan 30, 2004 at 01:27:51PM +0100, Vidal wrote: > From: "Andre Miller" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 12:58 PM > Subject: Re: [PIC:] Programming Interface > > > I [..] have managed to build a simple > > interface that uses the serial port and supply the +13V for non-LVP without > > an external supply. > > Thank you for the advice, I will look into it. > > Is it neccessary to have the +13 V? Not exactly. There are two different programming modes: Low Voltage Programming (LVP) and High Voltage Programming (HVP). LVP is 5V only, however you lose the use of an I/O pin (RB3/LVP). With HVP you retain use of all of the hardware. > As far as I can see from > the PIC16F87XA manual only 5 V is needed for programming. That's LVP. It works fine and I've built a 16F programming system around it: http://www.finitesite.com/d3jsys > > Or have I misunderstood that? I think you just didn't have the whole picture. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body .