---- START NEW MESSAGE --- Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109] by dpmail10.doteasy.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A1D31F4C020E; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 03:36:51 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <16.00CC4994@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 6:36:40 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 6619 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:36:33 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 5635; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:35:58 -0500 Received: from pfepb.post.tele.dk [195.41.46.236] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with ESMTP ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 06:35:57 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by pfepb.post.tele.dk Received: from xxxx (x1-6-00-02-44-43-24-5e.k169.webspeed.dk [80.162.34.56]) by pfepb.post.tele.dk (Postfix) with SMTP id BAFF95EE399 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:35:51 +0100 (CET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <018801c3e725$a06cd8c0$3822a250@webspeed.dk> Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:38:43 +0100 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: Vidal Subject: [PIC:] To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Precedence: list X-RCPT-TO: Status: U X-UIDL: 371856476 Sorry, I realise I forgot [PIC:] :-( Hi. I am all new to this group (and new to PIC, too) so I don't quite know if this the right place to ask. My question is: The 16F877(A) can be programmed with 5 V as far as I can see. Can anyone point me in the direction of a (cheap) DIY programming device, preferably for the serial port? And perhaps also software to do it with. I have seen readymade interfaces that cost more than 100$, and it seems pretty expensive. Regards Vidal -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body .