---- START NEW MESSAGE --- Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109] by dpmail10.doteasy.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A7C21FD4007C; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:39:46 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <1.00CC0FCD@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:39:39 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 1493 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:39:34 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 4972; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:37:28 -0500 Received: from sprucegrove.com [12.151.22.244] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with ESMTP ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:37:27 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by sprucegrove.com Received: (from jay@localhost) by sprucegrove.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id i0SFYFC05072 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:34:15 -0500 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <200401281534.i0SFYFC05072@sprucegrove.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:34:15 -0500 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: "D. Jay Newman" Subject: Re: [OT:] On Capitalism, freedom & democracy To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: from "Hazelwood Lyle" at Jan 28, 2004 10:22:16 AM Precedence: list X-RCPT-TO: Status: U X-UIDL: 371856124 > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Mike Hord [mailto:gaidinmd@HOTMAIL.COM] > > >Where political systems inevitably fail is that not everyone is > >willing to play buy the rules. > > I always thought that the problem was that only the most affluent > can afford to play "buy the rules". > > Lyle It's the most powerful. In the US power tends to come from money, but it is not the only way. One can have great political influence without *huge* amounts of money. In theory economic systems should work; in practice most of them become changed due to the real world. I think that until we either get a new type of human or "stuff" becomes so available that its free (Star Trek replicators anyone?) the real world will intrude too much into economics. -- D. Jay Newman ! jay@sprucegrove.com ! Xander: Giles, don't make cave-slayer unhappy. http://enerd.ws/robots/ ! -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics .