---- START NEW MESSAGE --- Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109] by dpmail10.doteasy.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A743A0C01AC; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:37:39 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <23.00CC0FB3@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:37:30 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 1416 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:37:25 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 4943; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:37:05 -0500 Received: from mailhub-3.iastate.edu [129.186.140.13] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with ESMTP ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:37:05 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by mailhub-3.iastate.edu Received: from mailout-1.iastate.edu (mailout-1.iastate.edu [129.186.140.1]) by mailhub-3.iastate.edu (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id i0SFb5Pf028868 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:37:07 -0600 Received: from hike.student.iastate.edu(65.110.233.166) by mailout-1.iastate.edu via csmap id 3bdb8cec_51a8_11d8_8297_003048290bef_16652; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:40:01 -0600 (CST) References: X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.0claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <20040128093603.0d6ebacd.sunkist@iastate.edu> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:36:03 -0600 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: Eric Christensen Subject: Re: [EE:] Spreadsheet w/serial input? To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: Precedence: list X-RCPT-TO: Status: U X-UIDL: 371856123 I use this method. If you use a comma as the separator, you can give the file a ..csv extension and then excel will just open it right up and throw the data into the spreadsheet. And using the serial port in linux is a piece of cake. My little program is maybe 100 lines of c... Eric On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 08:31:21 -0600 Mike Hord wrote: > Depending on the OS you're using, it may be very easy to write a program > that just brings data in on the serial port and rights it to a tab delimited > text file. Linux at least is a piece of cake. Once you have a tab > delimited > file, Excel will import it, no problem. > > I guess it's not really real time, but there you go. > > Mike H. > > >Is there a spreadsheet that offers direct real-time input from a serial > >port? > > > >Thanks in advance > > > >John > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: > >[PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads > > _________________________________________________________________ > Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. > http://wine.msn.com/ > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics . 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Return-Path: Received: from 209.119.0.109 (EHLO cherry.ease.lsoft.com) (209.119.0.109) by mta103.mail.scd.yahoo.com with SMTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:53:16 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <8.00CBF583@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:59:29 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 9709 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:59:23 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 0031; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:59:00 -0500 Received: from sark.cc.gatech.edu [130.207.7.23] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with ESMTP ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:58:59 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by sark.cc.gatech.edu Received: from cleon.cc.gatech.edu (cleon.cc.gatech.edu [130.207.9.12]) by sark.cc.gatech.edu (8.12.10/8.12.8) with ESMTP id i0RHwshZ007798 for ; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:59:02 -0500 (EST) Received: (from byron@localhost) by cleon.cc.gatech.edu (8.12.10/8.12.8) id i0RHwrm5006072 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:58:53 -0500 (EST) References: <20040127155011.GA29724@cleon.cc.gatech.edu> <014201c3e4fb$a5f7f1c0$0b00a8c0@PAARD> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i Message-ID: <20040127175853.GA5862@cleon.cc.gatech.edu> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2004 12:58:53 -0500 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: Byron A Jeff Subject: Re: SCO lobbying Congress about Linux To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: <014201c3e4fb$a5f7f1c0$0b00a8c0@PAARD> Precedence: list On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 06:33:12PM +0100, Wouter van Ooijen wrote: > > Now the fact of the matter is that there is a way to do this > > in the PIC world: > > linking relocatable objects. However at this time JAL doesn't > > have a system for producing such objects. > > Is far as I am concernewd Jal will never use relinkeable objects. For > instance, ever noticed that Jal warns you when you use too many stack > entries? A compiler that outputs object can't. Correct. I wasn't arguing whether or not JAL should create relocatable objects. Just the fact that there is PIC tool technology to do so, and that it creates an avenue to solve the issues with the LGPL. BAJ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads *** MESSAGE TRUNCATED *** .. . 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Return-Path: Received: from 209.119.0.109 (EHLO cherry.ease.lsoft.com) (209.119.0.109) by mta108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 07:37:28 +0000 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <22.00CC43F9@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 1:54:26 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 1739 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:54:17 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 8276; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:53:50 -0500 Received: from mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.55] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with ESMTP ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 01:53:49 EST X-Comment: mitvma.mit.edu: Mail was sent by mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au Received: from jake (c211-30-161-191.farfl1.nsw.optusnet.com.au [211.30.161.191]) by mail007.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with SMTP id i0U6rnQ28694 for ; Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:53:50 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Importance: Normal Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 17:55:05 +1000 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: Jake Anderson Subject: Re: [EE]: High current PCB To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU In-Reply-To: <20040129224750.191b1981.sunkist@iastate.edu> Precedence: list well to stop the arcing dont switch it while starting or under heavy load? > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Eric Christensen > Sent: Friday, 30 January 2004 2:48 PM > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [EE]: High current PCB > > > Yeah, > > He's looked at several commercially available dual-battery > systems and a variety > of relays/contactors. Many of the commercially available systems > he saw were > only rated for a 100 to 200 amps, and he wants to stay away from an > electro-mechanical setup that could be prone to arcing damage. > > Also, this is a project vehicle, so even if building a custom dual-battery > system may not be the most practical choice, this is a one off > project that is > kind of neat. It also gives him the flexibility to build it to his own > specifications, if he can find a way to easily and reliably > connect the MOSFETs > :) > > Eric > > > > On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 20:33:30 -0800 > Bob Blick wrote: > > > On 29 Jan 2004 at 21:53, Eric Christensen wrote: > > > A friend of mine is building a dual battery system for his > custom off-road > > > truck. His truck has a somewhat hard-starting chevy 350 engine and a > > > failure-prone electrical system. He wants to have a second > battery that is > > > not normally connected to the system so that it won't be run > dead in an > > > electrical failure. He then wants to be able to connect > either battery to > > > the engine individually or both in parallel. > > > He has worked out the circuit using several high power > MOSFETs in parallel, > > > but does not know how to connect them. > > > > Normally this is done with a couple of continuous-duty solenoids, > > available at most auto-or-truck parts stores. > > > > I don't mean to discourage the MOSFET approach, but it may prove to > > be a fussy design, and prone to exciting failure especially if the gate > > drive gets to oscillatin' > > > > Cheerful regards, > > > > Bob > > > > -- > > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different > ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details. -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? 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