---- START NEW MESSAGE --- Received: from cherry.ease.lsoft.com [209.119.0.109] by dpmail10.doteasy.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-8.05) id A1DE1E2A00FA; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 04:58:06 -0800 Received: from PEAR.EASE.LSOFT.COM (209.119.0.19) by cherry.ease.lsoft.com (LSMTP for Digital Unix v1.1b) with SMTP id <17.00CC0DA4@cherry.ease.lsoft.com>; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 7:57:56 -0500 Received: from MITVMA.MIT.EDU by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LISTSERV-TCP/IP release 1.8e) with spool id 7535 for PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:57:50 -0500 Received: from MITVMA (NJE origin SMTP@MITVMA) by MITVMA.MIT.EDU (LMail V1.2d/1.8d) with BSMTP id 8896; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:57:38 -0500 Received: from dpvc-68-162-221-141.bos.east.verizon.net [68.162.221.141] by mitvma.mit.edu (IBM VM SMTP Level 430) via TCP with ESMTP ; Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:57:37 EST X-Warning: mitvma.mit.edu: Host dpvc-68-162-221-141.bos.east.verizon.net claimed to be MAIL Received: from 192.168.0.3 (main) by mail.embedinc.com ; 2004 JAN 28 07:59:01 EST References: <37FB7AA6F5F9814FB634A7BF4C35A6F5640CDC@ESEALNT442.al.sw.ericsson.se> <006701c3e51d$3a7f7630$0300a8c0@main> <40171A55.3060107@olalde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <006e01c3e59e$4f34ce00$0300a8c0@main> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 07:57:38 -0500 Reply-To: pic microcontroller discussion list Sender: pic microcontroller discussion list From: Olin Lathrop Subject: Re: [PIC:] Picstart plus as an in circuit programmer? (16F627A) To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU Precedence: list X-RCPT-TO: Status: U X-UIDL: 371856090 Kevin Olalde wrote: >> No. As far as I know, only the Promate and my programmer >> (http://www.embedinc.com/easyprog) verify at the Vdd limits. > > Any indication of availability of this programmer? It is ready to go to production. The only thing holding it up now is cash flow of the initial production run. An order for about 30 of them would also allow it to happen. After going thru this process, we now realize that the EasyProg as shown on the web page is really an industrial product, not a hobbyist product. To provide at least some accessibility to hobbyists, I created an all thru-hole version that uses easily obtainable parts. I am thinking of making the bare boards available with schematic and build directions. This board has pads for a 40 pin ZIF socket, the same RJ-12 connector as the ICD-2, and 5 labeled pads where the programming signals are brought out explicitly. I was intending that the directions include options for only populating some parts depending on the features you wanted. For example, you can cut the parts cost in about half if you don't install the ZIF socket and some associated circuitry needed for dealing with different pinouts. That would still allow use of the RJ-12 connector or the labeled pads. I've got one of these new units built up but haven't had a chance to test it yet. I will update the EasyProg page when I do. Assuming this thing works as described, how much interest would there be for bare boards at around $10-$15 plus shipping? ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics .