Kevin Olalde wrote: >> No. As far as I know, only the Promate and my programmer >> (http://www.embedinc.com/easyprog) verify at the Vdd limits. > > Any indication of availability of this programmer? It is ready to go to production. The only thing holding it up now is cash flow of the initial production run. An order for about 30 of them would also allow it to happen. After going thru this process, we now realize that the EasyProg as shown on the web page is really an industrial product, not a hobbyist product. To provide at least some accessibility to hobbyists, I created an all thru-hole version that uses easily obtainable parts. I am thinking of making the bare boards available with schematic and build directions. This board has pads for a 40 pin ZIF socket, the same RJ-12 connector as the ICD-2, and 5 labeled pads where the programming signals are brought out explicitly. I was intending that the directions include options for only populating some parts depending on the features you wanted. For example, you can cut the parts cost in about half if you don't install the ZIF socket and some associated circuitry needed for dealing with different pinouts. That would still allow use of the RJ-12 connector or the labeled pads. I've got one of these new units built up but haven't had a chance to test it yet. I will update the EasyProg page when I do. Assuming this thing works as described, how much interest would there be for bare boards at around $10-$15 plus shipping? ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics