At 10:51 AM 1/27/2004, David Schmidt wrote: >I'd like to use an SSOP 20 packaged 16F627A in a project. I have a >picstart plus, but no programming adapter for an SSOP20. >I would like to solder the SSOP20 into my PCB and program it "in-circuit" >using my picstart plus (also I may need to change the >firmware later to correct for bugs). > >- Is the in-circuit programming of the 16F627A the same hookup, voltages >and algorithm that the picstart plus uses? >(can I just jumper over the 5 pins needed for in-circuit programming from >the picstart plus?) > >Thanks. The microchip website didn't list the picstart plus as being able >to program in-circuit, but I suspect that is just because they don't offer >a hookup cable. The PS+ is definitely capable of doing ICSP. You may need to buffer the supply voltages and possibly even the data & clock lines, depending upon what your circuit configuration looks like. I'll give a specific example: one of our products uses either a 12c508 or a 12f675, depending upon which variant is being produced. These are built several hundred at a time with blank chips. We use a PS+ to program the chips in circuit: both Vdd & Vpp have active buffers as per Microchip app-note TB017 and the clock & data lines have the simple 'stoopid' buffers I described several months ago. The 'stoopid' buffers are required because the programming pins have heavy loads (820R) tied permanently to the pins and the PS+ cannot drive those loads. Works well. dwayne -- Dwayne Reid Trinity Electronics Systems Ltd Edmonton, AB, CANADA (780) 489-3199 voice (780) 487-6397 fax Celebrating 19 years of Engineering Innovation (1984 - 2003) .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .-. .- `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' `-' Do NOT send unsolicited commercial email to this email address. This message neither grants consent to receive unsolicited commercial email nor is intended to solicit commercial email. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads