William Chops Westfield wrote: > On Monday, Jan 26, 2004, at 09:19 US/Pacific, Peter L. Peres wrote: > >> What the proprietary software supporters are trying to do, is to make >> all >> roads toll roads, because theirs is a toll road, and because (so they >> claim) all roads resemble theirs in design > > > What proprietary SW supporter other than SCO is making claims along > these lines? Don't you DARE villify PS vendors because of SCO's > actions! i don't think even microsoft has been stupid enough to > make such a claim against Open source software (although I wouldn't > be surprised if they're clandestinly supporting SCO...) The propretary vendors make these statements by their actions. Microsoft, Apple, etc... all say "you have to pay to play" with their OS. And their Marketing departments (just doing their job) work hard to give the impression there is "no other way" to get the solutions needed from your computer hardware than to use their software. I think that's all Peter is saying, but I could be wrong. An example would be last year's announcement by Microsoft that what Unix folks call "symlinks" were "created by Microsoft for Windows XP". The idea of a symbolic link on a file system that redirects you to another file is not new, not by a long shot... but those that read and believe the Marketing hype *do* believe it. And when they believe, they follow with their money and purchase the software. Personally I have no problem with people paying for Microsoft products. It gives both my small consulting company (side business) and numerous employers I have worked for a competitive advantage -- I don't pay for operating systems, and I don't ever feel like I have to in order to do business. A number of small business owners have been very happy with the possibility that they'll "never pay for software again" when I've helped them through server rebuilds using Free Software. Yes -- they'll probably feel the need to pay me to return and look things over once in a while, or fix specific problems they are having, but even then -- they don't HAVE to... they can find anyone to do it. If someone else will charge them less money, they can hope that person will do as good a job as I did -- or if they hated the job I did (boy I hope not!) they can easily switch "vendors". And I'm always careful to examine the risks of using Free Software with them also -- the possibility (very real) that a particular piece of software will go through a huge transformation and become unusable for their business and the real-world examples of a "fork" -- where they'll have to (with my help) have to make an educated decision about which side of the tree to stay with. Most of them like the control it gives them over their own "fate", shall we say. Nate Duehr, nate@natetech.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads