> I did the same discovery a couple of months ago and I asked MicroChip. > Their answer: You seem to be a few steps ahead of me Rob (now who was arguing that using more-or-less open software is a bad idea when you want to make money?). Maybe you also noticed (and asked Mircochip): the 18FXX39 ICSP guide p7 mentions a full-chip-erase, but table 3-1 shows only partial erase codes. And code 80h (which is the bulk erase on for instance the 18Fxx2 chips) is suspiciously missing. Just an omission? Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com hint: PICList Posts must start with ONE topic: [PIC]:,[SX]:,[AVR]: ->uP ONLY! [EE]:,[OT]: ->Other [BUY]:,[AD]: ->Ads