>Dry ice is what, -40C? We get those kind of winters up here so your >pins would fall out . Better to use liquid nitrogen. >Heating the work with a pinpoint flame is >pretty easy to do, and you get much larger diameter change for a >given temperature change when you have a ring, rather than a pin. >IOW, heating the hole works better than trying to cool the pin. >And the lower thermal mass of the pin means you'd better be darned fast. > >Robert If these animals are ever exposed to that kind of cold, we'll have bigger things to worry about. Mike H. _________________________________________________________________ Learn how to choose, serve, and enjoy wine at Wine @ MSN. http://wine.msn.com/ -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.