> "naked flat Bang"???? > > no offense intended to the writer but this ounds like a page out of the kama > sutra I think some punctuation is missing - I THINK Bang and Cheng are people or units within the organisation. I THINK that the naked flat belonged to the previous clause in the sentence and I THINK that they refer to chip on board ICs and I THINK that there is meant to be a comma between flat and Bang. And I THINK that .... but like Carl I'm probably wrong :-) So, in the unlikely event that I'm correct, if you think that that sounds like the Kama Sutra then you'd probably greatly enjoy the Philips "IC Packages" databook :-) RM -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics