On Wednesday, Jan 21, 2004, at 01:17 US/Pacific, Debbie Hynes wrote: > the f84 is simple and fast > 2 do a quick project on, however ... so if it works, use it, hey? > the main thing leading to the "obsolete" tag is that the 16F84 is twice to three times as expensive as newer parts that are proper supersets (more memory, more features.) IFF you have a nearby supplier who sells the parts in appropriate quantities. It does you no good to know that a 16F628 is $3 from digikey if you got all your other parts from jameco and aren't likely to get up to the minimum order size where a $3 part isn't overwhelmed by postage and/or minimum order/handling charge issues. I've noticed that a fair number of the "hobbyist" suppliers haven't jumped on the "F84" is obsolete bandwagon - presumably they still have stock they ordered a long time ago, and/or for all those existing projects that use it. The situation changes pretty drastically if you're in a financial position to frequently order $100 worth of parts at a time... ("16F628s go from $3 to $1.73 if I buy 25? Sure, I'll do that!") BillW -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu