Crikey guys!! i didn't mean 2 start a Great Debate like this! :)) I agree the 84 looks a little dated but it still gets the job done. i'm gonna use it 4 this proj cuz i'm still learning the f877. the f84 is simple and fast 2 do a quick project on, however ... so if it works, use it, hey? in the meantime, i'll adapt that excellent 555 design till i get the hang of using a PIC to generate 38kHz bursts. i captured the waveforms from the handheld r/c and i have Wagner's notes on Sony protocols so halfway there already?? ;) Best - Debbie --- Jinx wrote: > > It seems, for one reason or another, people are forgetting what > > obsolete ACTUALLY means in its use > > Well, there are two dictionary meanings for "obsolete" that you > could cite > > 1. No longer in use, discarded > > 2. Out-of-date, old-fashioned > > 1. doesn't apply to the F84. It's in production and well-used > > 2. is subjective and, if you consider 1. as true, then it doesn't > apply either really > > "obsolescence" doesn't fit either - there is no sign of the F84 > being on its way out. In fact the F628 is ahead in the queue to > the guillotine than the F84 > > I think this simply comes down to personal opinion which, at > the end of the day, the F84s and Microchip couldn't give a > rat's a** about. They're still a good earner > > -- > http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! > email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body http://personals.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Personals New people, new possibilities. FREE for a limited time. -- http://www.piclist.com hint: To leave the PICList mailto:piclist-unsubscribe-request@mitvma.mit.edu