> > > When Olin says the 16F84 is obsolete, all he really means
> > > is that he doesn't use it.

That's a tad unfair.
The 16F84 is more expensive and less capable than newer PICs that are plug
in replacements electrically.
It makes little sense to use it for new designs UNLESS you have a very
specific reason for doing so. In the case covered by this thread one factor
(regardless of what you think about its merit) was  that the 84 is less
likely to confuse beginners.

Perhaps a better term than obsolete would be obsolescent.


        Russell McMahon

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