> Thankz 4 the tips everybody! Hmmm ... good ideas all round, both > 555, 74HC14 or use the PIC. pity 'bout the ol'F84 being obsolete - > my fav processor I'd call it "superceded" rather than "obsolete" (which seems to have an emotional or judgemental connotation). The F84 is still widely available at any sales level and probably will be for some time. It's still a perfectly good micro after all for a lot of applications. Don't many Smart Cards use the F84 ? But personally I don't use it for new designs because it's not as sophisticated as newer PICs, and is relatively expensive Oh, and good luck with your project -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body