> Personally, I put RJ-12 connectors with the ICD-2 pinout on If there is to be any standard I think it should be that RJ connector. IMHO the ICD2 will be the Microchip entry programmer for the (near) future, replacing the PS+ (and winning the in-circuit versus ex-circuit war). A pity that connector is so big. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body