> > Granted. But let me ask this: if we limit the discussion (for the > > moment) > > to 5-pin polarized headers for ICSP, what is the agreed pinout? > > There are 120 possible choices, so you should get at least > 130 opinions from the PIClist. Yes, a challenge! It has been a long time.... Let's count: there are 3 choices out of 6 for the key (others are mirrors), after that 5! ways to distribute the other signals, so I count 360. So it seems I can speak for the total PIClist :) But why only 5 signals? IMHO the programmer should pull down (or up :) the LVP pin at the appropriate moment. Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body