> But the real driver was the I/O. The '84 has 13 I/O pins, 12 > of which are > nothng more than straight I/O, and the remaining one behaves > like the others > until you configure it to do something else. All of the > newer parts have > three or four uses per pin. The prospect of explaining that > right out of > the chute to folks who are very, very green with this stuff was not > appealing. IMHO the 16F630 is at least as easy as the F84 in this respect, plus you would not need to explain about a crystal, capacitors, and reset pull-up. And it is half the price of an F84 or less. > The widespread availability of ham related '84 > projects also played into it, Can't argue with that > but it was really the complexity of the newer > parts that drove the decision. It was probably the complexity of the Microchip product line that made you overlook the simple chips? Wouter van Ooijen -- ------------------------------------------- Van Ooijen Technische Informatica: www.voti.nl consultancy, development, PICmicro products -- http://www.piclist.com#nomail Going offline? Don't AutoReply us! email listserv@mitvma.mit.edu with SET PICList DIGEST in the body