Olin, Michael, and others experienced in this, could I press you a little further on this issue ? As Michael pointed out, an LC filter on the PWM output to the Peltier smooths the current and improves efficiency. As I said before, I have achieved minus 30 degrees in a test box using this exact setup. Probably should have mentioned an LC filter, thanks for pointing that out. If I recall, you pointed this out to me quite a long time ago when I first started controlling Peltier's with the PIC16F877 PWM module & FET switching. However, when efficiency is not so much an issue, could an LC actually create more problems than it solves ? An example would be ringing, which can be a real problem in a PIC environment. What is the trade off here between efficiency and noise ? I have used a simple LC. I cannot recall right now what values I used for L and C, but I do remember just wrapping thick magnet wire around a small ferrite toroid and using a simple mono cap, but maybe you could suggest a better LC configuration with ideal values to drive a 12V/8A Peltier at 5kHz ? I have found that this is not the easiest thing to simulate with Spice. Rgs Ian > -----Original Message----- > From: pic microcontroller discussion list > [mailto:PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU]On Behalf Of Olin Lathrop > Sent: Monday, 19 January 2004 3:17 am > To: PICLIST@MITVMA.MIT.EDU > Subject: Re: [EE:] About test boxes (hot and cold) > > > Ian McLean wrote: > > I have brought this topic up before and generating a lot of > criticism > > and alternatives for driving TEC's. Some will say that PWM is also > > not the best way to control them. > > It isn't, unless the individual pulses are filtered so that > the Peltier > device sees a constant current. This is again due to their > inefficiency at > high drive current. This means you will get more cooling at > a constant half > current than alternating between off and full on half the time. > > > ***************************************************************** > Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts > (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com > > -- > http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics > (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The PICList is archived three different ways. See http://www.piclist.com/#archives for details.