On Sunday, Jan 18, 2004, at 14:54 US/Pacific, Herbert Graf wrote:

> I agree, and in fact, unless you REALLY have a specific need for an 8
> pin
> part I'd forget about the 12F's and stick the with 18F parts. The 16F
> architecture has "quirks" that don't exist in the 18F line and make
> PICs a
> little harder then they need to be for a complete beginner.

1) i would sort of think that learning about "quirks" would be an
important
    part of a 'serious' "intro to embedded programming"

2) Once you decide to go to a new, non-quirky 28 or 40 pin chip without
    all the hobbyist history of the 16F series, are you still sure you
    want to use a PIC?  I mean, there are LOTS of $10 40pin flash
    microcontrollers.  (hmm.  Aside from the expense of tools, I wonder
    if a 'comparative religionxxxxx I mean microcontroller" class where
    you implement the same project on several different chips would be
    more beneficial than an in-depth study of one particular chip...)

BillW

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