Mike W wrote: > I believe the thought process behind the use of the 16F84 was that > it is/was the most basic flash PIC. Once students gain familiarity > with the 'F84 they can easily? migrate to bigger and better devices. I think this is backwards. The newer 18F PICs are easier to program and much more capable, thereby making them easier again to use in a particular project. On top of that, the 16F84 actually costs more than newer chips like the 16F628 that have more memory and do more. In particular, I suggest the following PICs for learning or general hobby use: 12F629, 12F675 - 8 pins, actually 16F parts architecturally. 18F1320 - 18 pins. 18F252 - 28 pins. 18F452 - 40 pins. Unless you have a specialized need or a high volume design, these are the only PICs worth looking at. All of these are also available in DIP packages for easy prototyping. ***************************************************************** Embed Inc, embedded system specialists in Littleton Massachusetts (978) 742-9014, http://www.embedinc.com -- http://www.piclist.com hint: The list server can filter out subtopics (like ads or off topics) for you. See http://www.piclist.com/#topics